As soon I win the lottery maybe I can afford to be a "real" 3d artist.... Good lord..give it a rest. I make the best use of the tools I have.... Anyone here have the 10-40G to plop down on LW/3ds & Maya???? I know most so called professionals use all 3. It's all how you use the tools you have!!!! Look at the movie Shrek....Poser could have easliy been used to aid & assist in the making of this movie...if you were an expert that is. Which I am not. I have yet myself to become profient in modelling myself, there I buy what I can. How do think the BIG houses work!!! They pay someone to make the model, someone to texturize it and then the studio buys it, them someone else animates it. I see a lot of middlemen here, DON'T YOU???? Everyone has there own specialty. I have a sneaky suspicion this all goes back to all the nudes in the gallery....same ol...same ol. IMHO..instead of yakking about it do something about! Create something unique!!! I try to, and I do say TRY. Why don't you go look at other galleries if Poser upsets you so much. Many galleries here combine several packages together..ie Vue/Poser/Bryce etc... I've recently perused(sp?) the 3ds gallery & seen some of the people models that people have made & quite frankly it was not good. OTOH the "props" or architectual side of 3ds was Outstanding. So............We all end up buying someone else models & applying to a pic we derivie in our own minds..so it is art.