I agree Cherokee..but for some reason it still seems to get everyones nads in roar whenever it comes up...by the way I don't have nads LOL ;) You want to see worse crap said..go look in the 3ds forum..what's ironic..they are creating people models that can't even come close to Daz etc...so I guess they don't think that there models will soon be in our Poser inventory(if good enough) and raking in the cash from us NON ARTISTS. What a load of BS..since they are the ones creating stuff for all to use LOL BAH HUMBUG!!!!