Ha, 27 IM's...you should have seen it before I cleaned it out, over 110. A LOT of "so-and-so has recieved your message". Any/all links on the forum header will open in a new window. The header will be just as much straight and plain HTML as possible, this I have found gives rise to way less problems in compatibility for all of us. So, it will be links hovering over nine (or so) graphics, which at this point all tally up to 25Kb. (plus whatever random graphic is showing at the moment, which averages 15Kb-35Kb) If the extra 25Kb turns out to be too much, I'll build a Header with basically all the links you see in the mock-up, I'll just seperate them with HTML "lines", as to not add any more real weight to the page. Total dimensions of the mock-up header is 835x445. Rather big, but if you are viewing at least at 1024x768 (which you REALLY should be), it fits just fine, as the jpg shows. I may bring those(835x445) dimensions down, but will have to resize the fonts down a little, along with those background graphics. Right now the graphics' bevel borders are a tad too wide anyways. Perferred colors - When making the Html stuff for Renderosity I just keep almost all fonts at "default", this makes sure if you have any preferences that affect font/link colors, it will be what you want it to be. The only thing I would like to add that isn't straight HTML is some basic java that would add in a countodown timer to the Challenge Deadline. AgentSmith

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