d_hood opened this issue on Feb 23, 2004 ยท 23 posts
PunkClown posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 4:48 AM
Here is a quote from Frank Zappa from his "The Real Frank Zappa Book" that may be relevant here.....maybe this is sort of out of left field, maybe not...BTW - it has the SH#* word in it so read no further if you are likely to be offended!
"The most important thing in art is The Frame. For painting literally; for other arts: figuratively - because, without this humble appliance, you can't know where The Art stops and The Real World begins.
You have to put a 'box' around it because otherwise, what is that shit on the wall?
If John Cage, for instance, says, "I'm putting a contact microphone on my throat, and I'm going to drink carrot juice, and that's my composition," then his gurgling qualifies as his composition because he put a frame around it and said so. "Take it or leave it, I now will this to be music." After that it's a matter of taste. Without the frame-as-announced, it's just a guy swallowing carrot juice." ~ Frank Zappa
Regarding the statement "This was supposed to be a legitamate(sic) art site and its not Its more a trash can full of artwork" hmmm...who determines what is a legitimate artwork huh? Well, that's why I included the quote above.
Opinions about artistic merit are like assh*les, everybody has got one. It is all subjective. For anyone to say they know what is "good" art or "bad" art sounds a bit elitist to me...If someone wants constructive critique about how to render something better or get such and such an effect or look in an image, great, that's what the comments are for. If people get antsy when they receive constructive feedback, then they are being too sensitive and probably shouldn't allow comments.
However if people troll in comments, with no constructive feedback as content, then this is against the TOS and should be reported to a mod or admin so it can be looked into. Out and out harassment such as mentioned above and threats of hacking are serious, as pushinfaders says these incidents will be regarded and dealt with seriously. As for the HOT 20 and votes etc, well - popularity is popularity, it follows no artistic guidlines or criteria and I don't see how it ever could, it's just what people like and vote for (if they take the time) ~ like voting for politicians it doesn't attribute any particular values to what (or who) is being voted for (ie. good, bad, honest, dishonest), it's a just a poll for heavens sake...