Dirk, maybe YOU take only 10 minutes to setup a render.. without loading props, background, hair or anything, just using 1 figure, morphs and lights, I'll take a hour or two sometimes. Add in props, background compositing, various photoshop techniques, I'll take 4 hours easy on a picture. Longest time I took, was 2 days. Now is that art, or not? And if it IS then length of work time defines art? I don't think so. So what do you call people who reproduce oversized product labels, like Andy Warhol? You cannot deny that he was a very famous artist, (Keeping in mind that it's not if YOU liked his art or not.) If HIS stuff is art, then why is POSER stuff not art? From Webster online: ART: the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects; also : works so produced b (1) : FINE ARTS (2) : one of the fine arts (3) : a graphic art

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.