thanx a lot about the trims problem.. i hope IW will release this too. tanx for expalining the method to do it myself by hand.. should work. already played a bit with group editor but would not have thing a global magnet on many different parts and to this size would get us the result i would like for those trims... still had not understand my problem with "transparent" catsuit bug. must be me or something. will keep you informed... nanoshi: well hen it seems it was just but a big good old misunderstanding :)