John, both are the real artists. Earlier in this thread, texmax said that poser is to 3d, like paint is to a painter, but that's not true. Poser is to 3D as a camera is to a photographer. Paint in itself is nothing, it has no form or shape until put on the canvas. 3d models have shape and are already elements when put into the scene. I tend to look at poser as art direction in film. One takes props, people, lighting, etc, and puts them together to portray the mood that the audience is meant to see. Does this mean that these people are not artists? You don't think Peter Jackson of Lord of the Rings fame isn't an artist that is creating a vision of Rivendell? There are people who will always judge art by how long it takes, how it was done, etc, but to the end viewer, there is no difference. The picture either touches them or it doesn't. As artists ourselves, we tend to dwell on technical skill as a measure, but in the real world, there is far less of that. When I look at a piece, I look simply at it's content, not how the artist got there or what they used. You don't trash a director of a film because Pauly Shore was in it. Er, bad example, but you know what I mean. :)

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