I agree. Baseline Firefly renders are much, much quicker and some of the other "slowbies" such as finding P4 files are much quicker. Hey, I'm impressed. Nice job, CL. And since I don't have the slightest idea what a lot of the other topics based around SR4 are about, I'm reading them carefully trying to figure out these obscures bits and pieces in case I need them at a later date. I'd still like a nice "idiot frienly" tutorial on the Material room, however.