Hooray..... Trekkies were not left out!!! JHoagland... What about items that can only found in other sites that are good foe inclusion in the site's collection? I wanna help.... I'll see what I have on Dodger's science fiction stuff. Tho it'll take a while coz I don't which is which in my collection. Which reminds me. There was an enterprise shuttle for poser in rosity free stuff and quite good. As for the scaling problems, not all ships are that huge. You have the runabouts and shuttles. Besides the ships are great for scenes..... Like this one of mine ....... http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=430940&Start=1&Artist=dv8%5Ffx&ByArtist=Yes As for ship proportions, I have a few scaling charts downloaded from Trek Sites that show size comparison of ships. There's a lot free items at 3dGladiators (STAR WARS & TREK) that might come in handy. This reminds me of a WIP I never got to finish.... Looks like there's an excuse to finish it now.... LOL..