"For me this equates quite well with using Poser" And foir me it doesn't. When I am evaluating the skill of a 3D artist (as opposed to simply evaluating the art) I consider the meshes, textures and so on to be part of the work - not a simple and common tool for the work. Victoria is a much, much more substantial part of a image than the chemistry of paint is to a painting. The analogy in computer art to paint is photoshop and no one says your not an artist if you didn't write your own image editor. The real analogy is to the art of collage really. Collage IS art, and can be powerful art - but for me the more truly origional items there are the more likely the work will stand out. But hey, I use Poser all day so clearly this doesn't bother me any... I never claimed to be an artist anyway :)