hi everyone. at this time, EdgeNet; Tim as made a decision to remove jack and i's admin status. R'otica is seperate and it's own identity. and will remain as so. we thank warrior, grey, willow and the people of PFO during this time. and i agree, it IS a time to finally come together AS a whole community of artists that use a variety of art programs and software. We do wish that everyone get the full story from all sides and make their own decisions as what they wish to do, personally. jack and i will be preparing a new home should any wish to visit and continue what we have created here through the dedication and wonderful participation of EVERYONE. take care everyone. please be calm through a trying time and let's stay cool and calm and work through it all and move on. also, there are alot of people on poser list discussing things, so that may be one of many portals you can all get info at to make your decisions in the long run. http://www.egroups.com/poser/ and also, bless everyone of you who have sent email regarding this current situation. you guys effin' ROCK!! ed