sigh and sigh again Guess it's time for me to say something? My first point is how very hard it is to remain neutral in these discussions. Yes, I have to remain impartial, and sometimes it kills me, especially when it's involving people and artists who I respect and whose art I admire and look to for inspiration. In this instance the removal was simply a matter of an "erect penis"... sigh It's there written plain as day for anyone who wants to read it. As someone who is being trained in the fine arts I understand and accept that sexuality and eroticism is a part of the art world. There is nothing more beautiful than the human body and the way we use it.... FWIW I enjoyed the image, laughed at it, and even commented on it.... However this site does have rules written that are there as guidelines, and as staff members, we are here to make sure that the guidelines are followed.... Misha has already explained quite well the reasons why action was taken, not sure I need to repeat it. These sorts of decisions are not easily made. I sometimes get the feeling that the general membership seems to think we gleefully rip images down just for the fun or because we're sadistic and like to see an artist get upset. :~/ Quite the opposite, for the most part there are usually debates, arguments and disagreements when talking these images over. But.... majority decision wins.... What follows is usually an angry artist verbally abusing the moderator who removed the work.... and this my dear friends is IMHO, very sad, and makes doing the job very hard indeed.... sometimes I think I must be insane to have been here as moderator as long as I have, either that or I have a teflon heart. Logiloglu is someone who I admire, someone who inspires me, and he has been nothing but a gentleman in this debate here. My esteem of him is even more now, for the respect he has shown. Now onto other another point..... the image that Donald called into question has come up in the past, and was indeed reviewed by administration, at that time it was accepted as not breaking the TOS.... it is my understanding that for the most part breasts are not considered genitalia, but milk glands (guess when you think of them that way they're not very erotic). Maybe I'm wrong? For those who proclaim themselves arousal hunters.... by all means, knock yourself out. Having a life outside of Renderosity, means not always catching every violation that might be in the gallery. If you find something, report it to a moderator or coordinator. It will go up for review, and then either allowed to stay or be removed if it does violate the Terms Of Service.... And no I wouldn't say this a new can of worms Vik. :~) More like a stinky one that's been around too long.... Kind of like that dead horse that's been beaten to death, yet people are still clubbing the poor thing. :~( There will always be images getting removed, for one reason or another and there will always be artists upset by it.... It's just been a while since the photography forum has had a debate such as this one. Now I believe I am done talking... I've had a long day at school, and now I have to take my limping dog to the vets to find out what he did to himself this time....

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