good response ricky, but you missed the intent of my comment. Your talking to a forensic investigator and a vet at that. I'm well aware of the differences, i've worked enough homicides and i've been to almost 1500 autopsies and that number keeps climbing. just making a bit of trivia as to the autoerotic part. like i said, it doesnt matter the intent, its the brains reaction to it is all im saying.