Wow, some really condescending attitudes in this thread. How boring, one yawns in your general direction. :-) Anton is right, although we SHOULD be primarily focussed on all things Poser here, the general sense of community is what used to make it more fun. Kill the spirit of community, and you might as well just shut the whole place down and post a FAQ instead. As an example, I noticed that earlier today a forum mod moved a post soliciting Poser enthuiasts for a baseball team to the Siberia of the OT Forum, on the reasoning that it was about forum members, not Poser. In my opinion that sort of thing just kills the spirit of this place. To be fair, I can see how that thread was technically not 100% on topic, and I know the mod was only doing their job under the current strict and unevenly applied policy, so I hope he or she won't feel insulted by my comment. On the other hand, what harm is done by trying to get a Poser-associated baseball group together? I have a lot of appreciation for the people, for example the ones I formerly named, who still make an effort to contribute on-topic, but also let their personalities, opinions, and sense of humanity shine, and no, this is not about wishy-washy "feelings." :-) Artists are not robots. I enjoy the Off Topic Forum, but I totally understand why many find it intimidating or disgusting. "Do I detect a southern accent there? ;)" Did you mean me when I said "fer sure?" Nah, I was thinking locally. California surfer dude. :-) I've learned not to assume a Southern tone because even if I do so with affection, some Southerners think that they're being made fun of, so it's better to just not do that. I'll say "y'all" now and then, but I picked that up from a stay in Austin. Oops, um, a stay in Austin to do research for Poser. Yeah, that.