Over on the Poser forum recently the point was made quite forcibly, with the threat of banning etc, that OT threads were OUT. Here fortunately we have had threads asking who we are, what we do, what we look like (spared you all a pic of me on that one) and the meaning of our nicks. Im sure this has made for a stronger forum, and saved a few embarrasing references by knowing the gender. etc of our friends here. Long live the Bryce forum. (and its mods). By the way, db, are you changing your name because "not a drunk" doesn`t fit anymore? :o)