I know there are always two sides to every story. And I do not know all the deal with Edgenet. But I do know that Jack and Ed have done a lot for Renderosity and the Community and support them 100%. I am glad to see others taking a united stand as well. It is the best way to get the point across. For anyone interested, I do have a website but rarely post the url as it is still not the way I want it. :o) You can check it out at: www.cp-tel.net/shadownet/ Rob