the water sky everything is 3D and based on reflections, bump maps, displacement maps.. no photos was used for textures.. and are pure 3D Poser5 renders. You can create ice, feezen water, buble on water and everything you only image..without Bryce or Vue.. and rendering time?? one minute per image on FireFly and best settings.. the speed is amazing and you don't have to export anything this time.. I am really exciting about it as you see.. YES!!! thanks to my other project I finally find the option for the outdoor effect. I will preapre everything with instruction and scenes on separate pages very soon so you can download .. Cath

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