Ed and Jack, I fully support you. You've done a wonderful job running this place and I've enjoyed every minute of it. As soon a your new site is up, and I hope I hear about it, I got up this morning to find all this had happened while I slept, then I'm out of here. Edgenet can sit all alone wondering why no one wants to play with them. See you guys in the new site. For the time being, I'll just lurk here, hoping to hear where the new site will be. (PS, I'll pull my stone railing from the Free Stuff and put it up on my site until the new Renderosity is up). Melanie