I think when I made the original post, I was saying that often art depicts things that are "criminal" ... as in there are artistic depictions of murder and in many parts of the world nudity in public is a crime (as in much of the Arab world). What I did not say, and do not believe, is that such a standard should be applied here. The only point in the original post is that things that are criminal (somewhere) are often depicted in perfectly good art. The post regarding what is or is not criminal had absolutely NOTHING to do with the TOS. Just a statement (in response to one made by Nilla) that not all depictions of criminal acts in art are bad things. And, again, I agree that the decision to remove the particular photo was wrong. But, that's my personal opinion. I also think it's a big step to go from doing what you are told in this case and doing what you are told when it comes to genocide. I don't think I would attempt to make that argument. I am sure there are porno sites all over the place. I certainly get enough spam from them. I'm not certain what that has to do with the issue. Gerhard mentioned Mapplethorpe's site as a possible solution to the problem, and he might be correct. However, I'm not certain that being forced to click a second link warning you of nudity or one demanding to know if you are 18 or 21 would work here. On top of that, I don't find anything personally wrong with 99% of the nudity here. It seems artistic to me. Sometimes I do question the wisdom of having it displayed in the thumbnails or not noted as containing nudity or violence etc - if only for the sake of people who really want to actively avoid the stuff. So ... again - in conclusion: 1. Discussion of nudity as crime in parts of the world had nothing to do with TOS or their interpretation. Only that not all depictions of criminal acts in art are per se a "bad thing" as Nilla had suggested. 2. The Holocaust and the TOS make a really bad comparison when it comes to the excuse of "doing what you are told." Oh, and since you asked, my definition of "nudity" is "a naked person." And, even in states and countries where they have nude beaches and nudist camps ... a naked person walking down a public street, or in a public park, or in any public place not designated to allow nudity would probably be arrested for "indecent exposure."

Could be worse, could be raining.