"I can not remember exactly why I was wanting to do this." grin - - - - - "certain kinds of poses it is easier to Not conform the clothing, and just use a pose file to match the clothing to the figure" Please describe an example. Are these poses needing interaction between two body parts not in a parent-child relationship? As a programmer, I am looking beyond Poser, to see what is needed in hypothetical character animation tools in the future...