i know what you mean, CI, so just that you know not everyone is of that mindset... :) undisclosed... I don't think he doesn't appreciate it, I think he really just wants to know if those who do it are honest when they do it or if there is some kind of general 'agenda' within the fractal community... I think he may be finding out who is genuine and who has an agenda... ((((hug)))) I know what you mean about the language barrier. I have had to be short and to the point before when in the gallery of someone with a different language. OHHHH and by the way, somewhat off topic is this... I found these a few weeks ago, you might find them useful sweetie: http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en and: http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr I've started using internet language translation tools and it makes all the difference in the world to me now. v