Virus, I have to say that the analogy is slightly off there :) I would liken this to more of a restaurant that hired a chef whose excellent food brought more and more people into the place... expanding its business... If the restaraunt had problems with the chef and fired him, wouldnt you expect that the people would then start heading to where the man was next cooking? Jack is much more than a steward to this forum..... The owner,edgenet in this case, has no community ties.. doesnt care who runs the place, as long as they keep it running.. Since i WAS around for the last breakup, and involved with it, I am surprised and sorry that once again edgenet is depriving the community of their leaders.. Darrin