Btw, though I announce the Vue moderators there...Gail of Silevr Branch who created the unforgettable crab using Xfrog3, Diane-your shrewd advisor of KatheThe Shrewd who has contributed her much self made free stuff, Marge who has a wonder iamge of Vicky at the Zygote Hall of Fame, Laurie of Daffy34 with her recent wonder oramantal etc...freebies made with terrain and some other neat technique and last but not least myself. Be sure to drop by should you have anything to show, need some comment on your work, or a question with regards to difficulties in using Vue. There are five of us with the backing of e-onsoftware, to help answer the best we can. Btw, if my images are your taste or just "artertainment" to most of you, I have some good stuff to be put up soon. The best of my stuff are going up at the Zygote Caneldar Contest first and I can't show them yet till the contest is over. Its all happening at Big-i.com soon. Cheers!