Bast...don't know you. But your words smell like bitter and rancid flesh to me. Seems more of a "kick em when they're down" rant rather than an exersize in enlightenment as you bodly proclaim. I have had my differences also with Ed and Jack...never did they feel to need to ask the question you do. Why would they? All I ever heard from them was "freedom". I think perhaps you should be asking yourself what your motivation is. Smacks of toadying to the "New Boss"...definitely not the same as the old boss. (Though I regard Ed, Jack and much of the staff as people of honor rather than "owners") You're post keeps reminding me of a small child rubbing their hands with glee at the oppourtunity to get even. I'm not impressed...Getting a job with Edgenet? My inquiring mind wants to know.........