Thanks, lobertyart, I'm sure you meant well, but that's BS! I'm fuly licensed and have been ever since Poser 3, and I have problems with SR4. I doubt that the others who have posted about the slowness of SR4 are illegal owners of Poser or would appreciate the inference otherwise.>> Same here. I'm one of the fools who pre-ordered and did extensive beta testing after buying it. So I probably paid Curious Labs double of what you paid for your copy, lobertyart. I don't know if the Poser 5 Beta Forum is still accesible but if so you just have to go there and make a search for SimonWM and you will find lots of my posts with screengrabs trying to get it to finally work rights so your theory is proved wrong. Two years later and SR4 just broke what was bearably productive with SR3. Not to mention we still have a broken hair room, no 3rd party plugins and no new animal meshes.