i'm with ya justmike. "oh yeah, says you, bite me screw you. you suck, no you do" what the fuck is up with that? our time here at renderosity is over. we will move on. the community should see this as a change and nothing more. life is full of them. we move on. some will stay. some will go. no one will agree whole heartedly across the board. instead of warring against one another, we should be coming together and moving on. to those who stay, take care and good luck. to those who move on, welcome to the journey. to everyone else, grab your popcorn, get a good seat, enjoy the show, or better yet, go do some art, visit a friend, or a site you haven't had the chance to recently but wish to. or better still... go hug your kids, go see a movie, or just step outside and look up at the sky and breathe. ed