I think some don't mind rigging it for themselves, Your Pearceratorness. I have Poser, Bryce and Max (as of last year) and I much prefer a clean object file I can rig myself than a cr2 that doesnt work all too well. But thats just me :-) Anton started a thread in the Poser forum about some new categories, and Kev said he'd mention it to the higher ups. If we added our two cents to that, maybe there'd be a possibility of some reshuffling - making it easier for files and d/l's to be sorted or classified ? ~S