" I think some don't mind rigging it for themselves, Your Pearceratorness" Hi C :) The thing is, I don't know or use Poser, except for sticking the occasional Poser 3 (which I got free off a cover disk) dork figure in a pic to give some scale, so I don't really know what would be expected if I put up obj models as Poser models; I would have thought that if they were specifically listed as that, users would assume that they were ready for instant loading into Poser, with all associated handles, material settings and whatnot or whatever. There does, I think, need to be some generalisation of the model categories. Mick.