i know but isn't DAZ Studio suppose to render better then Poser 5's firefly According to who? And judged by what criteria? ...or were you basing this on some of the 'hype' posts by someone in the D|S forum? Both P5 and D|S have good renderers and one or the other may render some things 'better' than the other, but mostly that's going to depend a lot on how skilled/familiar the user is with the given package. Right now, D|S is still evolving, and it's relatively new to the people trying to use and tweak it. Stewer could give you a more detailed comparison of the capabilities (and/or limitations) of the two renderers, but assuming equal user knowledge/skill at using both apps, I think you'll find that they 'can' produce very similar output... and that neither renderer is clearly superior to the other (depending on potential limitations in some area or another.. for example, the P5 renderer does micro-poly smoothing and the D|S one may not). Basically, don't believe the hype (at this stage of the game, at least ;).

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