Bast, I loved almost all of the graphic work you did during your first turn as a member here, but I have to disagree with most of your opinions. I was very dissapointed in BOTH sides when you were banned (I think they overreacted, and you and your friends retaliated in a childish manner, making both sides look as silly as some employers I've had). However, I think you are being an idiot here, accusing those of us who are willing to take the side of Jack and Ed over that of Edgenet. If Edgenet didn't have the spectre of "ogrishness" hovering over them from the mess with Willow & co. last year, then I'd be more open minded, but this is the SECOND time (in as many years) that they've come out as "closet villains;" it's difficult to see anyone supporting them as being more than a mindless sycophant under the circumstances. Perhaps there are more facts that need to be brought to light, but from what I've heard, Edgenet is totally in the wrong on this fiasco. I must admit that, given the events of the past, I'd be more prone to taking JeffH's words seriously than yours, and he hasn't really said much vitriolic, just that he's back, glad to be so, and looking forward to helping people puzzle out Poser. Not that we're being mindless drones to follow Jack and Ed. I'm not going to abandon the site, at least not for a while, because I did miss out on a lot when I left to follow Willow's group, but I suspect I'm more likely to stick with Jack and only come back here sporadically if he forms a new forum