I couldn't of said it better ScottA. Isaacnewton, I wish I could say what I really think , but I don't want to reduce myself to your level. The forum isn't isn't here for personal attacks. This forum isn't your personal gripe gallary either! JeffH and others here will help you become a better artist with Poser, but you don't seem interested inproving your work. You need lots of help.