Perhaps, Scott, you would be kind enough to show be some of your own fine work. So, a dumb ol' boy like me can look and learn. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. Actually, Shay (may I call you Shay?) I am very much interested in improving my work, as you might have noticed if you had taken the time to actually read my previous reply. Doubtless, there is indeed much room for improvement, and I'm willing to learn. You are right about one thing, at least, the Forum isn't anybody's personal anything. Which, of course, is the point of my previous complaints. BTW do you have any nice artwork to show me, so that I can become a better artist myself? IsaacNewton