You know, believe it or not, I actually prefer that not-so-perfect sort of rendering. I don't really like the "Broadcast" setting, but recently I've been making two copies of my stuff: One with the "Final" setting (with soft shadows), and one with "Preview", and both at the same size. Using Painter 6's "Soft Clone" brush to merge the two images, I've come up with some fairly cool effects that, to me at least, merge the best of both worlds, and make things seem just a little more "real". Actually, I think Vue's rendering is just a little TOO perfect, if that's possible. Things seem just a bit too sharp. I know there's a way to blur certain objects or selections, but hell if I know how to do it yet...I'm on a Material kick this week, and trying to learn this all systematically in due time.... unlike Poser, which I just jumped right into! Well, there I go again, talking for no reason ;) Later, Mike