hauksdottir, she's wearing the DAZ fantasy wrap with the default poser gold refelction map applied :-) pdog, the knot was generated in a freeware program called Knot Tyer 3d by Steven Abbott (http://www.abbott.demon.co.uk/knots.html) which allows you to export in obj, dxf, POV, VRML, or as a picture file. igohigh, I don't remember what knot it started out as (I think it was a fisherman's bend) but I did a fair amount of work on it in Lightwave before exporting to Poser