You are missing the point here. Hmmmmm.....It's always possible, but, considering I started the thread...? ;) > Its not about having a house, it is all about the process of building the house, and that makes all the difference. And, if you talk to the Amish, they didn't use power tools to build their house, so they wouldn't appreciate hanging out with wimps that bought pre-cut lumber and used power tools to cut it and hammer it in place. That's why it's a silly snobbery to have. There's always a more primitive step to take pride in. I could take pride in writing a book by hand, but it's kind of ridiculous to not use a word processor if one's available. Someday, we have to get past the feeling that it's modelers vs. Poser. There's no "us" vs. "them" on the Poser side because Poser artists wouldn't have much to work with if it wasn't for all the talented people out there creating models. I'll have to admit that it's not totally inappropriate for somebody to take offense at a Poser artist that is misrepresenting what was created; or if the Poser artist enters a gallery that showcases the work of modelers. Posting a photo of a live model in a Poser gallery and claim it's Victoria and watch the feathers fly. I've seen gallery images trashed even when they were clearly labelled as Poser. Some people are going to be prejudiced, pure and simple, and their views of the world are going to be tainted by those prejudices. Their world is not made up of reality, but of what they allow themselves to enjoy.