OH Carolly I think us "guys" are getting it more and more, which is why so many are finding other places to go! It isn't that message that grated on me as much as the sttitude that went with it. Sorry, this isn't an attack on you or anyone else, just a statement that this site seems to bring out the more hostile elements in people's personalities more and more, for some reason. If there are two ways to do something why take the nastier tone? In this case it would have been just as easy to move the thread and leave out the sarcastic remark. mike