This has become in my humble opinion one of the most lucid and sensible threads to arise from this sorry situation.Because of time difference (I,m in the UK)and work commitments I have just got a chance to read through all the follow up postings and some very valid and important points have been raised by everyone. Jack,I,m pleased your listening in because one of the first points raised has already caused me problems and I,m gonna raise it with you.Please bear with me. First off Nitreug,Hi!English may not be your first language but you spelled out the problem as eloquently as anyone."think of the great artists on this site......if those artists decide to remove a lot of their stuff like they did today it is because they feel that there rights (were)not fully respected. Too bloody right they were not respected.What people are trying to decide is by whom were those rights not fully respected.I firmly believe they weren,t respected by ALL concerned, you included Jack. It is the Artists that concern me also.How do they best deal with the mess left behind by those who chose to play buisness politics But,thats not what you said that made my mind up. Jack I forcast this was on the cards on the day you first proposed the store and I am so damn annoyed with you that I was right. I don,t hold it against you that you tried to facilitate this deal, human nature being what it is your motives are understandable.Why shouldn,t you have profited from your hard work.But the way you went about it was all wrong.You can fool some of the people ...etc.What sank you in the end was that you underestimated Edgenets greed.Whilst you took the time to persuade every one to go along with each and every subtle step,(even though you never let on where it was we were all actually headed) as soon as Edgenet realised what you were up to they just dived straight for the money and blew it.Sad as it is, your way would have worked, but thats how it is.We know where we stand with Edgenet forewarned is forearmed.Its only friends who get close enough to stab you in the back. But thats not what made my mind up,and why I,m coming down so hard on you Jack. After I read the posts here I flicked back through some of the past postings and saw with a clearer eye how good a politicion you really are,then something jumped out and hit me like a slap in the face. The way I understood nitreug,s post he thought that the hard work of these talented artists, there picture and props and tutorials would have been part of the sale.I was reminding myself to explain that you couldn,t have sold those when up popped your proposal for the Renderosity CD.Remember Jack,the one where everyone would contribute images,and tutorials and a few models and of course they would have to sign the rights of these things over to Renderosity for comercial use so that Renderosity could Legally sell the CD,just for funds to support the site you understand. Sign the rights over to Renderosity. Jack,the negotiations to purchase then sell Renderosity must have been in progress when you made that little suggestion. Anyone who contributed to that proposed CD would have found that there work belonged to Renderosity and had become another little asset for you people to trade with. Jack you were going to take from these people one of there most valued possessions.Not even Edgenet at there worst could have pulled that little stunt. Thats what made up my mind and why I,m coming down so hard on you. Jack...J,accuse ! Now that everything has blown up in your face your trying to take Renderosity down with you. Leave it Jack. Let this wonderfull place stand as your Legacy.Leave it to remind people of what you did do right rather than destroy it to remind them of what you did wrong. I think I,ve made my position about as clear as I could.I,m gonna take my chance with Edgenet and as many of you "Great Artists" as choose to stay. I agree with those that say this has to be a personal decision by each and every member.I,ve explained about as candidly as I could my reasoning but I fully respect those who choose to go and I want to say it has been an honour and a pleasure to know you all.Yeah you included Jack.Good luck.