dlm... First of all hun get your facts straight here. Jack and ed did not propose the cd nor were they involved in the proposals I wrote up. That idea was mine and mine alone. And as you notice if you did look at it it did not go past stage 2. Number two. All proposals were hosted and still are hosted on MY personal website. Not Jack and eds. Furthermore you will notice if you read, the cd would have acquired ONE TIME RIGHTS not all rights. Also Dlm.. I would have taken on this as a loss of money to myself because I fully believe in the artistic beauty of the community. Jack and ed would have gotten some money from it from the profit and I would have gathered mailing costs and money to create the cds but The rest would have gone into buying contest prizes for the Members of this community. I called it the Renderosity artist disk because it would have been artists from Renderosity and it would have benifited Renderosity but It would have had a disclaimer that it was distrubted by OMNI 3d.. and if you don't know it yet hun.. THAT IS MY SITE. Not Jack and ed's.. Now since you want to twist the facts don't do it with this because you are dead ass wrong here. Make sure you have the facts straight. Stormrage J.Smith