Ouch. . If I am not mistaken, we are talking about two different IE issues - as most members can actually get to the data with IE. There are a handful that cannot, but nothing I change on the 'site' will fix that for them. If you could send me the URL to the one you have read and are mentioning, I would appreciate it. It's not a hobby to me, I actually don't user Poser at all, just maintain the php-Nuke portion of the site (and try to answer questions non-Poser related). There is nothing personal in my comment about being aware of your concerns, issues, etc. Did not mean to imply that you were 'ragging here' and not there, and if you have issues with the site, I never said 'don't subscribe'. In fact, Will and I have both talked about being glad that there are those who post constructively, tell us what is on their mind, and give us ideas on how to make it better. I saw your post last week on the three textures from last year, I think Will mentioned he would be getting to that soon. I will remind him just in case. Regards, -sting