Hey everyone, I just want to say that this PARTICULAR vue resource is what led me to buy vue. People come to this site for a zillion types of software, and glancing through the galleries is a lot of people's first introduction to vue d'esprit. Really until very recently I saw stuff in the zygote gallery, and here, that showed vue images instead of the omnipresent bryce and poser renders. That's one of the better things about r'osity (and there are many not-better things, lol!); it provides a front door to all types of apps, so you hear of things you otherwise wouldn't, and you get to see things in action before you buy them. So a "niche" app without a ton of word of mouth (yet!) like Vue can really benefit by association. Which isn't to say that the egroups list isn't also essential, because it is...but you have to know what Vue is to find the list, y'know? Mary chandracrater@yahoo.com