hey blood! it does my heart good that you, clintH and FastTrax are being placed as moderators. it also made me feel good to see a forum stick to what it is for, the application itself. A change has occured. The staff has changed. That happens. but the disenssion(sp?) is absolutely heart breaking. I wish you well, blood, i truly do. And i hope to see ya around my very dear friend. And to any who continues to visit here. Take care and enjoy the resources this place has, and will continue to offer. hey kate, how ya doin', darlin'? This is a time to continue and move on. Vue IS an amazing application, jack picked it up just recently. and with this little break between now and our new site, i might actually find some time to play with it and other art programs.... ::smirks:: that should a blast! take care all, and cya!! ed