Well, what I'd really like to render is the Battlecruser Tiger (the most handsome warship ever) steaming line-ahead with her sister ships at Jutland, shell splashes all around, in the ach of firing her guns seconds after Beatty made the remark "Something seems to be wrong with our ships today". I'd use Poser as the operating program, to rotate the turrets and elevate the guns, plus to put tiny little figures on the deck, then probably export it and render it in Bryce, or maybe Max. But... I'd have to make the model first (nobody makes anything like that), and as I make my living doing Poser stuff and it wouldn't sell (very well) to others I might starve while I was making it. Besides, I like girls. ;-) A little off-topic side note here- anyone ever notice how many of the mesh-makers (other than me) seldom seem to do renders? I find I often make stuff because I want to use it in a render, I then sell it to keep food on the table.