You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time. I have seen a lot of repetition in other media, just look at the slew of new little female models out there. Line them up together and they all look pretty much the same, like a lot of folks took the same modeling class and kick out the same style. I don't care. If I like what I see it's art to me, and if I don't it's art to someone else. Just consider the source Dark and move on because that type of person will never be able to admit that there are many roads to the same temple. I think Poser is a great program, and I have seen some renders from Vue and Bryce that knocked my socks off. I have also seen some stuff from the "high-end" programs that were pitiful. It's not the program so much as the person's ability to use it. Marque