I almost agree wih Scarab, and wonder if that was what I wanted to do with this question thread. I am tired of seeing this bs being thrown. Isn't it time we just ask, what is being done to get this mess straightened out? What happened with Jack Ed and the others a year ago does not matter. The Renderosity we love and treasure is like a quilt being ripped at the seams. Why? To air some petty grievance from a year ago? To sling Sh*t at those we don't agree with? Hell..I wonder if it is even worth it to stay here. If the slinging is what will dominate. I think I will see a day not too long from now, A thread.. "Guys. I have question...Why is the sky blue?" Second post: "Man. It is????? I didn't know" (The Jester of the group) Third: "Man what type of nitwit are you.. Learn something man, or don't you have the intelligence" (The Slinger) Fourth(Before the posts mysteriously vanish) "Man it takes all kinds. This is inappropriate and is being removed" (The moderator who hates anything that is not what he wants to see) The day this site goes that way, is the day Twoblade will hang up his mouse at Renderosity, and will likely give up on 3d graphics. I thought this was a site to honor the accomplishments of each other. But now I seem to see it as a place where we all just go at each others throats.. Is it worth it?? TWOBLADE