Apresiate; no I can't spell, all the help. I already have it set on d3d. I use the 2.3 version of meta not the Le for rendering. It just works better, renders twice as good and has more options; just got to figure out the UV thing. I'm just down loading thing faster then I can learn how to use them[ I have 2 uvrap programs now that mystafie me.] I'm on dialup so I'm used to long down loads, can't be helped I live in a vary rual communety; broad band is a female singing group. Maya was a seven and a half hour; over night, down load. thanks for the link.