yea they are great but if I create a scene can't give it away :)) btw one of my next nice things will a real water effects for the scenes.. here one test from animated water and real chrome reflection.. models was just poser cubes.. excellent effect in animation.. I render the animation right now so here one of the frame.. it loks little frozen in still image but not when animated.. another amazing oportunity using animated bump maps.. no transparancy was used

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