Ashlocke, you summed it all up quite nicely and I would hope that Tim would make a more information based answer. Granted, I feel that Ed and I (along with the other moderators) was screwed over by them, I think it is very important for them to make a statement for the Community's sake if this site is ever going to go forward. Duane, the only thing that Ed and I "failed" to live up to Edgenet's standards was not remaining silent when we got shafted... We knocked down the value of this site by us leaving and posting to people why... Dlm, please don't appologize, it is a confusing time for everyone, for Ed, Myself, for the members and also for Edgenet, who must now rethink things. WE ALL DO. I will say this though, I really respect you for appologizing, some people have a hard time doing that, and you were able too. Thank you. Everyone, the fact of the matter is this, the Community is where ever the Community wants to be. Be it here, the PFO, Big-I or Ed's and my place when it is finished. There is absolutely NO reason why the Community should feel differently about each other. Yes, be sure to look at everything, try and get the facts, but don't attack each other... that solves nothing and will bring about the death of the Community, no matter where it is!! Jack