When you make a complex obj like this do you put it together in the assemble room or in the modeler room? I havnt much success modeling in Carrara but I am working on it. One of my biggest problems is how to deal with multiple objects. In nendo (my modeler of choice now) its very easy, but in the C vertex modeler I find myself having lots of problems (pressing ctr+z after every selection moving the mesh is one of them). Right now I keep trying to put multiple shapes in the same modeler but I was thinking it might be better to make multiple shapes and assemble them in the assemble room. Of course the biggest problem with that is you cant see the other objects to make sure everythings in proportion..... -brent