oh I just got to laugh. While writing the last post, I got an e-mail. When I finished writeing I went and checked it out. An e-mail from TB soft with a zip of the lost msvcr71.dll file. Going to have to regester with these guys. Vary promt in their replies. Sent three e-mails to Metasequoia {nizmo labs?} and have yet to get a responce.