"EdgeNet will have to move on and the community lose a once great resource." I get the feeling from edgenet's statement that they are trying hard to be a community group, we'll get to vote on the new moderators, it's up to us to keep the site afloat etc... but where were these community desisions when Edgenet locked out Jack and Ed? It wasn't up to "us" to let Jack and Ed go... did I miss that vote some where? I have no grudge against Edgenet, I just know that a man named Jack Kammerer went out of his way to help out a site called the 3D Comic Collective. With Jack, I know I'm dealing with an artist, a person who has a passion for what he does, not for what kind of profit he'll turn. I have a feeling that the nomadic tribe once called "Renderosity" will turn up again... like a Phoenix from the ashes, this time better then ever. I also won't be surprised if it happens again, and again... after all, history tends to repeat itself. Just my .02 and my own humble opinion. Doug